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Post by mskied on Aug 4, 2022 7:03:11 GMT -6
Isnt fentynal the stuff people die from because they think they are taking something else? I didnt know you could buy it to get high. How long does dope sickness last? Seems like it should only be 48 hours, why doesnt he just suffer through it? Whats it like?
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Post by ashima on Aug 4, 2022 20:44:55 GMT -6
Isnt fentynal the stuff people die from because they think they are taking something else? I didnt know you could buy it to get high. How long does dope sickness last? Seems like it should only be 48 hours, why doesnt he just suffer through it? Whats it like? Typically yes. But many know now because it's cheaper and easier to get. It's the fix for their opiate addiction so they dont go using heroin (pill addicts). It's terrible that someone decided to mass produce this garbage. Dope sickness can last up to 72 hours, but it varies on the extremity of their addiction. He's been sick for about 2 days that I know of. This is actually worse than heroin. More lethal. I have know idea when he last used. Very hard to have a conversation when he's incredibly sick. He explained it as his body feels like it dying. Everything hurts bad on top of vomiting constantly. He did suffer through it. They dont give any meds during detoxing. He has to get his brain receptors retrained. Like rewiring it. I do not know the severity of his usage in a treatment help standpoint and if it requires opioid blocker meds, that's what the assessment is also for. I spoke to him today. He says he feels better than he did, but still feels like shit. His voice sounds a bit different. Can tell his mind is racing with thoughts by how he's speaking, seems like he's in a hurry (but he's in detox). Was asking for phone numbers. I gave him none. Those are people that are known to use so hell no. He needs to get settled in treatment and focus on his recovery(he's still in detox) and not calling these "friends". A friend of mine once said "addicts will try to connect with the folks they used with." Problem is these are childhood friends.
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Post by ashima on Aug 5, 2022 4:16:09 GMT -6
He was smoking fentanyl. I didnt even know that was a thing until his gf told me after he left for detox. Had to look that info up and I guess people smoke it because it gets them higher and less risk of an OD, but still can OD pending on amounts. His friend taught him that, conveniently one of the friends number he wanted. From my understanding that person also has done treatment and probably taught him the safer way to use without OD risk, but also causes the addiction to be worse. SMH. I believe that person still uses based on info from his gf. Haven't got proper sleep yet because he needs some clothes for treatment and can't get in touch with his gf (grandchildren's mother) because my grandson broke her phone and it's getting fixed. I asked another person about getting yhe clothes & toiletries to him (I do not drive), but got no response. That was pretty fucked up in my opinion. Just shows a lack of caring for basic human needs of clean clothes & toiletries.
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Post by mskied on Aug 7, 2022 4:56:46 GMT -6
I pray that your son can come clean and that his voices go away.
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Post by ashima on Aug 8, 2022 3:37:36 GMT -6
Thanks. I feel the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 12:34:53 GMT -6
Ashima, I don't know, why God acts in His weird ways sometimes, but I hope with all my heart, your son will get better soon, and I hope that for you, too, mskied and naiwen. My "wife" completely lost it last weekend, and who ever the fuck she was, she was definitely no longer herself. Damn those mother fucking drugs... I lost her already two decades ago, but seeing her losing it completely is so goddamn hard to take. I am still shocked and don't know how to help her and support her awesome partner who agrees with me that she needs professional help. Damn those mother fucking drugs... Damn it... She always wanted to find spiritual enlightment and thought she could take the LSD shortcut... But there is no shortcut to real spiritual growth and enlightment... There's is only hard hard work. ❤️
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Post by mskied on Aug 24, 2022 1:33:11 GMT -6
Ashima, I don't know, why God acts in His weird ways sometimes, but I hope with all my heart, your son will get better soon, and I hope that for you, too, mskied and naiwen. My "wife" completely lost it last weekend, and who ever the fuck she was, she was definitely no longer herself. Damn those mother fucking drugs... I lost her already two decades ago, but seeing her losing it completely is so goddamn hard to take. I am still shocked and don't know how to help her and support her awesome partner who agrees with me that she needs professional help. Damn those mother fucking drugs... Damn it... She always wanted to find spiritual enlightment and thought she could take the LSD shortcut... But there is no shortcut to real spiritual growth and enlightment... There's is only hard hard work. ❤️ The LSD shortcut doesnt work well when faced with the pressures of daily life and the complexities of Creation. It takes years of study and contemplation to arrive at the conclusions necessary for enlightenment. In the end, spiritual enlightenment isnt all that its cracked up to be: better to just find happiness and live ignorantly. The world is not just one mode or thing, it is many experiences and points of view, and what is important is cultivating your awareness to suit your needs. The road to enlightenment is Chaos, and to find your "way" takes a long time, sorting through all the points of view, and all the words written that you digested about it. Throw God into the mix and you get a whole bag of worms better left unopened.
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Post by ashima on Aug 24, 2022 9:37:44 GMT -6
Ashima, I don't know, why God acts in His weird ways sometimes, but I hope with all my heart, your son will get better soon, and I hope that for you, too, mskied and naiwen. My "wife" completely lost it last weekend, and who ever the fuck she was, she was definitely no longer herself. Damn those mother fucking drugs... I lost her already two decades ago, but seeing her losing it completely is so goddamn hard to take. I am still shocked and don't know how to help her and support her awesome partner who agrees with me that she needs professional help. Damn those mother fucking drugs... Damn it... She always wanted to find spiritual enlightment and thought she could take the LSD shortcut... But there is no shortcut to real spiritual growth and enlightment... There's is only hard hard work. ❤️ It's like that lyric in Hummer chasing charms (whatever the charms may be for people) My son and his gf both need professional help and I need a break from all their shit. They are broke (of course because no jobs and downside to addiction owning them) so my grandbabies need diapers, they have no phone, they want to use mine for job apps blah blah....I feel trapped and I know I'm not. This stuff does take a toll on me as well. I wont let their bullshit spiral my life out of control, I need a break from them. Going to work is a break, but yet it's really not. Anyways, I hope your "wife" gets the help needed. It can become unhealthy for you trying to help as I'm noticing that with me by helping with my son & his gf for little things. Yes they've been sober, but extremely needy. My days off from working are not days off away from them lately. 😵 I'm getting pretty stressed and nobody seems to give a shit that I need a break from everyone. 🤷♀️
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