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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 21, 2021 7:44:17 GMT -6
When your kid can't even watch Sesame Street anymore (mine actually haven't in a very long time), you know the world has gone to hell. This is an offense to people everywhere of the 3 major Abrahamic religions, which accounts for billions of people. wtop.com/national/2021/06/sesame-street-introduces-family-with-two-gay-dads-during-pride-month/I love all lgbtqia+ people. I have no objection to letting them live their lives how they want. What I object to is targeting children in the attempt to promote homosexuality/gay marriage as a natural thing that is equal to heterosexual marriage. It is not equal to divinely sanctioned hetero marriage. It obviously cannot be, and it never will be. The blessing of biological children, and thereby the natural bonds of biological family and everything that brings, cannot come from it. The inequality is inherent. Something that is natural and produces the divine miracle of creation cannot be equal or the same as something that is the antithesis of those things. To pretend they are equal or the same is make-believe. People need mothers. Their real mothers. People need fathers. Their real fathers. They don't need two dads. They don't need two moms. The continuation of this is going to create very confused, psychologically damaged children who will then become confused, psychologically damaged adults who will end up in defective relationships and increase the likelihood of them never having children themselves. As a civilization, this is poison. There's a reason God has declared marriage to be between male and female. Because the harmonious union of the sexes and the miracle of creation and family that comes with it is essential to civilization's survival and well-being, as well as being a major player in our individual happiness. These people want to bisexualize/transexualize the world and they are going after your kids. |
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Post by mskied on Jun 21, 2021 9:58:17 GMT -6
This isnt some attempt at making people homosexual. The hard reality is that there are gay people, gay couples, and society has decided that they can adopt or have their own children, and why not? If you can have your own child does it matter if you are gay? There are plenty of children in this world to adopt, and you should be grateful that it happens because it means they didnt abort the fetus. Is this a general decline in civilization, that people have to put up children for adoption? Yes. Is it a decline in civilization that gay couples or parents can adopt? NO! The fact is that there are gay people, and they have the rights to be who they are because its part of our species to have them. They also have the right to adopt or have their own children, as these are rights that all people should have access to. Making gay ok is not criminal, and it is for the betterment of our society. Is it a malfunction of psychology? Biologically, it is not in line with what nature seemed to have in mind, but if it were truly unnatural, then why does it exist? I personally think that it is a stray from a normal, but I dont think it is abnormal to be gay. Accepting gays is the new normal, deal with it!!!
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 21, 2021 13:44:39 GMT -6
This isnt some attempt at making people homosexual. The hard reality is that there are gay people, gay couples, and society has decided that they can adopt or have their own children, and why not? If you can have your own child does it matter if you are gay? There are plenty of children in this world to adopt, and you should be grateful that it happens because it means they didnt abort the fetus. Is this a general decline in civilization, that people have to put up children for adoption? Yes. Is it a decline in civilization that gay couples or parents can adopt? NO! The fact is that there are gay people, and they have the rights to be who they are because its part of our species to have them. They also have the right to adopt or have their own children, as these are rights that all people should have access to. Making gay ok is not criminal, and it is for the betterment of our society. Is it a malfunction of psychology? Biologically, it is not in line with what nature seemed to have in mind, but if it were truly unnatural, then why does it exist? I personally think that it is a stray from a normal, but I dont think it is abnormal to be gay. Accepting gays is the new normal, deal with it!!! Mskied, I know you're gay and I'm cool with that. I mean, I'm not in your shoes. I believe heterosexual pairing of the sexes is something that is essential to the greatest amount of human happiness for everyone and that gay people are tragically missing out on that. But you do you. I don't condemn you. And your relationship with God is your business. I know he loves you and I believe, whatever your situation is, things will work out for you. But I feel like you took what I said and translated it into a lot of things I didn't say. I mean, I didn't say anything about adoption. That's a whole 'nother bag of worms. I accept gays. I accept you. You are what you are and whether or not you want to try and choose something different, that's up to you. What I don't accept is gay marriage being mandated as the law of the land (and done in what I feel was an illegitimate way), and I also don't accept pushing same sex relationships as no different or equal to hetero ones - particularly towards children. I also feel there is a strong push towards trying to get children to question their sexuality and be "open" to "exploration." They want to bisexualize/transexualize the world as much as possible. They want more than acceptance. They want to be embraced as a way of life for everyone. They want to be the "new normal." And they want to have free, wanton sex with of all genders and ages, no boundaries whatsoever. That is their vision. That's what they celebrate. It's that simple. And it's sinister. And I don't think the people pushing this give a damn about the welfare of children. |
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Post by mskied on Jun 21, 2021 17:39:24 GMT -6
The sexual revolution happened. Heterosexuals are free to have "wanton sex with all genders and ages" Its not just the gays. Is this a bad thing? It depends, does it spread disease? Are there unwanted pregnancies? Yes. In the land of the free should we limit this opportunity? No. People are free to date whom they choose, and to have sex with whom they choose. I cant say that gays are missing out, maybe you are missing out on something they have?
As far as "God mandating heterosexual coupling only" thats a line of BS. Welcome to the enlightenment; men and women wrote these books. And men and women can write new books, gay books.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 22, 2021 8:24:49 GMT -6
The sexual revolution happened. Heterosexuals are free to have "wanton sex with all genders and ages" Its not just the gays. Is this a bad thing? It depends, does it spread disease? Are there unwanted pregnancies? Yes. In the land of the free should we limit this opportunity? No. People are free to date whom they choose, and to have sex with whom they choose. I cant say that gays are missing out, maybe you are missing out on something they have? As far as "God mandating heterosexual coupling only" thats a line of BS. Welcome to the enlightenment; men and women wrote these books. And men and women can write new books, gay books. I believe in prophets and inspired word from God. The Bible may be fallible in some areas inasmuch as there is incorrect translation or some sort of uninspired perspective might have snuck in edgewise - but you don't need the Bible to know what the prophets have said for millenia regarding sexual immorality. Furthermore, as you may very well know, if you study esoteric literature (which I believe has a place in Christianity, personally), you hear all about the importance of balance and harmony regarding the male and female aspects. It's a big picture thing that affects all aspects of life. It's not an exclusively Judeo-Christian idea. At all. It is in all cultures. Yin-Yang. Hermeticism and the law of gender, the law of polarity, etc. Yeah, people are free to do what they want. It's not freedom I am in opposition to. It's the agenda for advancing the cause of sin, wickedness and error. They are free to advance that agenda but I am also free to oppose it. You can argue with me and fight what I'm saying because you don't like it - which I can understand - but I think deep down, maybe you know I'm right. |
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Post by mskied on Jun 22, 2021 9:07:00 GMT -6
Morality has nothing to do with sexuality. Is it immoral to have many lovers? No. Is it immoral to be gay? No. Is it immoral to lie? Yes. Is it immoral to steal? Yes. Should gays marry? Why not? Are they missing out on the opposite sex? Yes. Is there ultimately a difference between man and woman? No. The only difference is biological, and in biology, there is no morality.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 22, 2021 9:45:23 GMT -6
We've got different beliefs, mskied. I respect your intellect and right to believe what you want. We've come to different conclusions for different reasons.
My thing is I'm just outraged because I feel kids are being targeted.
And also because you have networks and media everywhere bending over backwards to cater to an extreme minority, in order to promote and normalize it, all at the same time deliberately turning a blind eye to the millions if not billions of people whose beliefs and values they are defecating on.
I can't walk into a pet store in June without gay pride merchandise displays smacking me in the face - because I guess my dog is gay and proud?
Religious people in the U.S. are generally tolerant of other peoples' beliefs - but I find such flagrant displays to be intolerant and offensive towards people who have religious values. They do it because they get away with it. But I think it's high time that stop happening.
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Post by mskied on Jun 22, 2021 10:08:41 GMT -6
This country isnt governed by religion.
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Post by mskied on Jun 22, 2021 10:11:01 GMT -6
If you want to be in line with the religious beliefs of this government I suggest Thelema. Otherwise, move to Israel
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 22, 2021 11:31:34 GMT -6
This country isnt governed by religion. True. Yet there is freedom of religion and we do vote according to the dictates of our consciences. If you want to be in line with the religious beliefs of this government I suggest Thelema. Ha! No doubt. Otherwise, move to Israel. They really wouldn't be any different, as things are now. But eventually the political kingdom of God will rise and become a real thing. That's what I believe. Maybe, probably not in my lifetime tho. But I can see the baby steps already going in that direction. |
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Post by mskied on Jun 30, 2021 1:04:27 GMT -6
Why do you think you have the right to vote against marriage rights for gays?
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 30, 2021 9:55:49 GMT -6
Why do you think you have the right to vote against marriage rights for gays? Well, because we live in a democratic republic (allegedly) and because the Constitution doesn't say anything about how if heteros can legally marry then homos must too. My problem isn't with letting gays do what they want in their personal lives. My problem is with adopting a national standard of culture that promotes and alters the marriage relationship in a way that will ultimately affect generations to come. I believe children are going to be harmed by this. And really, I think gays themselves are being harmed by it because the national narrative is that you are "born that way," under all circumstances, and are incapable of changing or living any other way - and that's just not true. By promoting "marriage equality," they are pretending something is equal that cannot be equal, and thereby further encouraging people to engage in a very misleading fantasy. A lot of people could turn from the gay way of life and learn how to have a relationship with the opposite sex, get married (for real) have children (for real) and see what having a family is all about. But this discourages that. Being gay ain't what they make it out to be. If you can't be with the opposite sex, you will never have children and a family of your own. You will forever miss out on that. And that's a damn shame. I'm simply for having a culture that promotes having an actual family, and gives people a real chance to be happy, instead of digging themselves further into something that, while it may be easier, I don't believe will lead to the greatest happiness. Imitations abound, but there is no substitute for the real thing. And everyone damn well knows it. |
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Post by mskied on Jun 30, 2021 11:36:23 GMT -6
How can you say it doesnt lead to happiness? When two people want to commit to one another in a loving relationship there should be protections of rights for life partnering. It isnt in your rights to deny two people this act. This is just one reason that your religion is suffering at the hands of politicians.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 30, 2021 13:18:44 GMT -6
How can you say it doesnt lead to happiness? When two people want to commit to one another in a loving relationship there should be protections of rights for life partnering. It isnt in your rights to deny two people this act. This is just one reason that your religion is suffering at the hands of politicians. a.) it's perfectly within my rights to vote on what kind of society I want as long as it doesn't violate our Constitution. And even if it did somehow violate the Constitution, how is that people don't inherently have a right to say what kind of society they want, anyway? b.) I didn't say it doesn't lead to happiness. No doubt they will experience a measure of happiness within the framework they have built for themselves and the beliefs they hold. What I did say was that I don't think it leads to the greatest happiness. This goes back to what I am saying is a fundamental flaw in homosexual relationships - the inability to create a biological family together. It's the thing every gay person knows deep down, but doesn't want to talk about because it's unpleasant. Look, to be fair, I'm sure there are people on the other side of this who could make very eloquent and convincing arguments in favor of gay marriage. But I think those arguments are going to rely more upon emotional merit and cost/benefit analysis from their particular angle than the the more intellectual argument that focuses on the law, religion, the history/purpose of marriage and the greatest welfare for children and our society in the long term. I mean, the simple truth is, a lot of people just don't want to hear that argument. Which I understand. It's stuffy and boring and not fun. It has rules and principles. It references God and the Divine. It isn't in the vein of "do what you want," which is always so attractive. Doesn't mean it's wrong, though. |
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Post by ashima on Jun 30, 2021 16:28:18 GMT -6
Should they make a religious section of clothes, books, accessories & whatever ever else to celebrate for 1 month?
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