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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 11, 2014 10:12:09 GMT -6
"There are two methods of human activity - and according to which one of these two kinds of activity people mainly follow, are there two kinds of people: one use their reason to learn what is good and what is bad and they act according to this knowledge; the other act as they want to and then they use their reason to prove that that which they did was good and that which they didn't do was bad."
Leo Tolstoy
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Post by shadowmaker on Jun 12, 2014 10:54:23 GMT -6
Good and bad is subject to one's own opinion, morals, values, integrity.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 12, 2014 18:25:22 GMT -6
if good and bad are subject to your own opinions and morals, then there really isn't any ultimate good or bad that exists outside of what we prefer, i.e, no real objective good and evil. do you believe that?
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Post by shadowmaker on Jun 12, 2014 20:53:16 GMT -6
Well let's say someone thinks that beating some dudes ass because they think it's right in their mind, but really it's not because that person has some serious issues within himself that he needs to recognize. Make sense?
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 16, 2014 10:44:38 GMT -6
Yes. The truth can sometimes be a bit elusive and you have to reserve judgment. On specific, particular situations, the truth has to apply uniquely to those situations or people. I (and Leo Tolstoy) am referring to universal truths though, which apply equally to everyone and everything in any/every circumstance. A lot of people don't seem to believe those exist anymore. Anyway - the quotes in this thread that I will be posting are from a book called Leaves of Gold - it's a classic, old-timey book of quotations. Very old fashioned, but I like that  Also, it should be noted that just because I quote something from it, it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it, either partially or at all. It's really just meant to stimulate thought/convo. Here's another one: "Life is a long lesson in humility." - James M. Barrie |
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Post by shadowmaker on Jun 16, 2014 10:59:55 GMT -6
I know how you are, it's why I enjoy your conversation.
You stir the mind and sometimes the emotions.
I've had my run-in with humility a few times. On that note it's time to just listen and be quiet
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 16, 2014 11:06:29 GMT -6
I'm more humble than I used to be, and life has taught me some lessons about that. I have definitely seen the benefits of choosing humility. Still a long way to go though.
I do know that in prayer, though, deep humility really is key to getting the heavens to open up for you.
Fasting is a form of humility, and also a form of sacrifice. In the Old Testament, the sacrifice was the goat/lamb/whatever - but now the sacrifice is a broken heart and contrite spirit - which can be powerfully manifested in the form of fasting. I haven't fasted in a very long time though...but I know if I did, some things would turn out for me.
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Post by shadowmaker on Jun 17, 2014 8:40:40 GMT -6
Which sort of fasting would you be doing for things to turn out for you?
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 20, 2014 21:50:50 GMT -6
Periodic 24 hour fasts from both food and drink, accompanied by sincere, searching and frequent prayer on your knees and petitioning God for answers/guidance/what it is you seek.
You must first dedicate the fast in your prayer and establish to the Lord what it is you are fasting for - and when it is done, close the fast in prayer and seal it up to the end for which it was intended.
You have to be careful how often you do those types of fasts so you don't damage your body - but doing it even once will have an effect. I think max I would probably do it if I were really petitioning God would be maybe twice a week until the answer is received.
Also keep in mind that personal righteousness is key. Not only do you have to be petitioning God in the form of your prayer and fasting, but striving to keep the commandments as well. All of this is humility in action - and I guarantee it brings results.
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Post by shadowmaker on Jun 20, 2014 22:10:46 GMT -6
Well Ramadan is approaching they fast during the daylight hours a eat once the sun goes down.
Ive fasted before in that way, but more accidental because I wasn't hungry & too busy at work.
maybe I'll give it a go again, but I actually need energy from food to get my job done.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jun 30, 2014 1:55:00 GMT -6
when I was in Russia, I was walking through one of the residential/urban mixed areas of Moscow and came across this all these sheep and rams on the side of the road, huddled around this big truck. THe back door of the truck was open, and inside were all these sheep getting gutted, hanging upside down with their heads chopped off, etc. It was pretty gory, but also quite funny because it was totally unexpected. I talked to this one dude standing by, who was a Muslim, asked him what it was for and he said it was for a Muslim holiday they were having, and they were gonna give away the slaughtered sheep as gifts to eat. It may have been Ramadan, I think it was in November, which I think is Ramadan time? Maybe?
Anyway, I took a picture of myself giving a thumbs up with the truck in the background and all these gory sheep with their heads cut off. Great pic.
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Post by Belteshazzar on Jul 17, 2014 10:51:04 GMT -6
"Joys are our wings; sorrows our spurs."
Johann Paul Friedrich Richter
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Post by shadowmaker on Jul 17, 2014 15:20:33 GMT -6
This thread title reminds me of this song every time I see it
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