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Post by Moderator on Sept 10, 2017 3:01:15 GMT -6
lol definitely an emotional song for me.
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Post by ba on Jan 10, 2019 23:39:30 GMT -6
My SP story.
I was probably 11 - 15 when first listening to SP, and then due to moving I dropped it cause I did not bring my CD's with me in the move.
I forgot all about it ...... until my 36th year May 2018 when I was journalling with my usual style of automatic writing. I was basically channelling writing from "Truth", just intended as universal truth as opposed to the illusion that is made real in the word somehow, the bane of my existence. And it came up in the writing to try Today, and Bullet With Butterfly Wings, and explore the symbolism.
At the time I had been already studying Christ indepth, just through my journalling, as a living master who had taken many forms throughout the world. For example, many masters including Krishna the Great, Jesus Christ, Moses.... and many many more. It came up in my journalling that Billy Corgan is a very important notable Christ master - an embodiment of the living master who created his image in Corgan, Jesus Christ, and so many others. But Corgan was pointed out exceptionally important to me.
I checked out the 2 videos and my journal said "This is how you really feel - in these songs it is your true feelings". So I studied it carefully.
After a month journalling about it more and meditating on this concept of a Christ presence in the mainstream media, I joined the Smashing Pumpkins facebook group at an incredible moment of time, almost exactly the date of the release of the video Solara. This was the first single / video released by SP in a long time - symbolic of their comeback / return to a fullness of performance and production. Amazing timing !!!
It changed my life completely to involve myself with the facebook community. I learned so much more than normally imaginable by watching the forum unfold. I felt the ongoing support and spiritual love of the Christ master, beyond the holodeck of our normal understood world around us - yet infinitely more real. In the same point, I felt incredible spiritual support from WPC himself and the band, growing and growing more and more all the time in light of the intentions of the master how his creational intentions express themselves through SP perfectly to his accounting.
Over time the band came in more and more healing and devoted frequencies until I began to break down and accept on a way deeper level that this was something personal and important to me individually that I was guided by their loving intentions into the SP community and their loving provisions of incredible arts of transformative and healing qualities. They supported me to learn careful lyrical study & interpretation, leading to my finding out that their songs lined up with my lifetime's work and personal destiny I had learned of in sacred states all my life growing up, deliberately, as they intended a plan to include me in their future.
As it were, by this point, I am aware of what will happen. I understand now that my special skills and qualities are perfectly aligned with the band's strategic future plans of amazing success.
I have told the story in pieces and parts throughout the forum on facebook, and come to understand on a deeper level why the community has responded to me in a dark and negative approach of baiting and incredulity with put down atmosphere, when I am speaking so inspirationally and being respectful.
Now my ke'board is starting to malfunction sorry....
I will leave it at t'at for now...... Wit' all my love, Ba Adonai
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Post by Odin on Jan 11, 2019 10:04:00 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, ba!
That's a really interesting story. No offense, but just to level with you, my guess is you do probably come off as a little bit crazy sounding to many, which often results in people being negative in reponse, but I think I can understand where you're coming from. You may not have intended it, but you come off a little bit sounding like you think WPC is himself an Ascended Master on par with Christ Himself - which I certainly don't believe and I don't think may others do either. I'm sure WPC also doensn't believe that, nor those who know him. BUT....certainly the idea of "Christ Consciousness," (a sort of new age/Edgar Cayce idea) has truth and relevancy to it. I, myself, don't buy the entirety of the theory in detail, but I do believe that it is within all of us to embody the virtues of Jesus Christ and that we should strive to become like Him - and I do believe that it such a thing is ultimately possible. That we can embody that "Christ Consciousness," if you will. WPC has talked about using avatars for himself in his performance, and he has used many..."Billy Corgan" being one of them...and then "Zero" and "Glass" being avatars as well. Certainly the avatar or persona of Glass and what is reflected in much of the Smashing Pumpkins' music is reflective of divinity and the quest for inspiration and drawing nearer to God and creating a more loving and harmonious world. That is what I love so much about SP, it is such a dynamic band and it's not "just" rock music, there is real intellectual and spiritual depth to much of it.
So if you were guided to this band and it is bringing you closer to the divine, I think that's fantastic. Welcome to Shadowland!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 4:36:16 GMT -6
I wouldn't call myself a true SP fan. I'm too much of a (garage) punk for that. But I was drawn into the whole machina mystery stuff by my best friend, who was perhaps the greatest SP on planet earth. Unfortunately he died a couple of years ago. And somehow I feel close to him by interacting with other SP fans and listening to SP once in a while. I have grown fond of their music over the years, of course. There was no other way, because they are a great band...
I miss you, Ian, brother. My being here is because of you, mate. Who would have thought, eh? Me - without you - still on that journey? Please, be there at its very end...
God bless!
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Post by Belteshazzar on Sept 15, 2022 18:33:51 GMT -6
I wouldn't call myself a true SP fan. I'm too much of a (garage) punk for that. But I was drawn into the whole machina mystery stuff by my best friend, who was perhaps the greatest SP on planet earth. Unfortunately he died a couple of years ago. And somehow I feel close to him by interacting with other SP fans and listening to SP once in a while. I have grown fond of their music over the years, of course. There was no other way, because they are a great band... I miss you, Ian, brother. My being here is because of you, mate. Who would have thought, eh? Me - without you - still on that journey? Please, be there at its very end... God bless! That's really touching, man. I'm glad you're on this journey with us! I know your friend is with you and probably saying to his friends on the other side "See that guy? I got him into the Smashing Pumpkins."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 16:22:00 GMT -6
Thank you for your very warm words, B'zar. Through warmth we can give a lot and take a piece of the cold away that lives inside us. My best friend unfortunately committed suicide. He broke from the coldness of the world, despite warmth, like so many other people. Therefore, I thank you for the warm words. Even though I no longer feel anything cold inside me, it is always nice to encounter the warmth rather than the cold in people. Most people don't seem to care much about that, but I do.
It would have surely blown his mind to see where we all stand, he bugged me with that Machina Mystery day and night that I had no choice but to either quit his friendship or just go along with it. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. God rest his soul.
Thank you, Ian.
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