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Post by ashima on Aug 11, 2022 5:55:13 GMT -6
Posting here doesn't solve anything. I takes notes with pen & paper. Just sharing some of the shit observed and said when they are over.
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Post by mskied on Aug 11, 2022 7:06:39 GMT -6
Heavy users are often small time dealers. I think your son is in a lot of trouble. Also, the gf using with kids in the house breaks my heart. These two dont want to get clean but they know something needs to change. The bug in his ear and the feds listening, that is paranoia from dealing. Your son is off his rocker and unless he stops this lifestyle its going to get much worse for him.
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Post by mskied on Aug 11, 2022 8:05:41 GMT -6
When you go schizo, typical things that we normally dismiss as possible (like a bug in your ear for the feds to monitor your thoughts) become possible. Thats when you know youre in trouble, because the mind can invent a lot of stuff in the supernatural sense that blurs the line between reality and fantasy. These things take over, and you are at their mercy (like hearing voices). Pretty soon you start doing crazy things. If your son doesnt stop using and get clean/out of that lifestyle, its going to get worse.
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Post by mskied on Aug 11, 2022 8:24:28 GMT -6
Youve got to nip these ideas fast. Remind him that there is no way for the feds to plant a bug in his ear, hes never been in a surgery to have it done. Tell him hes too small time and insignificant in the grand scheme to be bothered with. Tell him that he is having a psychotic break from drug use and paranoia, and that if he doesnt treat it with an anti psychotic, it will get much worse for him. Tell him that he is starting to imagine impossible things that are not real, and that if he keeps doing that, it will become an endless speculation about impossbile things that his mind will eventually create and will take control.
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Post by ashima on Aug 12, 2022 4:50:43 GMT -6
Heavy users are often small time dealers. I think your son is in a lot of trouble. Also, the gf using with kids in the house breaks my heart. These two dont want to get clean but they know something needs to change. The bug in his ear and the feds listening, that is paranoia from dealing. Your son is off his rocker and unless he stops this lifestyle its going to get much worse for him. I suspect he's was selling, but I think using took over, I cant prove it, but yeah, not even wise what so ever to do that. We've told him nobody would've put anything in his ear/head and even asked when & how that would have been done. He has said his gf did it at one point and yes informed him she has no way of doing such a thing. Yep, I'm very upset regarding the kids. The drug only prevents them from being dopesick at this point. It no longer makes them "high" Dopesick is pretty bad, they cant move due to extreme body pain, sweating, freezing, they shit, vomit, get antsy, angry and that's all that I am recalling at the moment. My son is not using at this time. He is taking his suboxone that has been prescribed. He hasn't used in 1 1/2 weeks since he went to detox and stayed at the treatment center for the weekend and is getting set up for the other facility. He is trying to get some things taken care of, ID, social security etc, he had court yesterday, they rescheduled for a later date because of him needing a clear mind and treatment. He gave them all the info about treatment place. I did not see him, only talked to him to pass a message about bringing some Gatorade home so his gf can have some hydration. |
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Post by ashima on Aug 12, 2022 4:54:08 GMT -6
Thanks for helping provide some info regarding this. I appreciate it.
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Post by ashima on Aug 12, 2022 5:03:34 GMT -6
He wants his girlfriend to be in treatment too and that's why he has said I ha e to make sure my kids are gonna be straight and that if he gets help she also needs to do her part. He never admitted that she is using until recently. I knew based on observing her. It wasn't his place to say it, but he would hint to it in subtle ways when he and I talked about getting his life together over the past year and a half.
Anyways, she is supposed to be going to my mothers home to use her phone to call the treatment facility to set up assessment.
Trying to get her into outpatient and set the kids up in daycare while she goes, but it all depends on her assessment. Wont know anything until that happens.
She is very lucky to have me in her life still because she has no family that is capable of tough love, honesty and encouragement to start a new beginning of sobriety. The only person she had in her life that did such, was her grandfather and he died when she was in high school. Her parents are addicts. Her grandmother is an enabler and she moved out of state due to her only son's addiction destruction to her life/home.
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Post by mskied on Aug 12, 2022 9:09:47 GMT -6
The thing that worries me most about your son is his idea that there is something in his ear. When I went psychotic, I had what I thought was an implant in my ear as well. It became a place where wires came out and into my brain. I thought it was an implant, but maybe there is something about the human body that this is a place where something happens. I pray he doesnt go through what I went through, it made my psychosis much worse.
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Post by ashima on Aug 12, 2022 19:29:08 GMT -6
She's signed up for her assessment. He's supposed to be leaving to go to in patient treatment too next week.
We'll see what happens.
He hasn't been doing his hearing voices that I saw today and my mom said not much yesterday either. Still, needs that taken care of amongst anger management, bipolar type behavior.
Hope this all works out for them.
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Post by ashima on Aug 15, 2022 4:32:02 GMT -6
Haven't heard from them since Saturday morning.
🤷♀️
Yes it's been peaceful. Just have to see what happens Wednesday
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Post by ashima on Aug 15, 2022 5:27:36 GMT -6
Heard from him, his voice doesn't sound right, it sounds a bit off and he's locked out of the apartment. Says he's been sober. Says he's still going to treatment. Time will tell.
🤷♀️
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Post by ashima on Aug 20, 2022 5:07:00 GMT -6
Defiance to get well. Asking & crying for help to turn and then refuse.
It's not a fucking game when it's effecting one's own life and children.
What's to fear with getting the right help to cope daily with their life?
Cant make the horse drink the water, can only lead the horse to it.
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Post by ashima on Aug 20, 2022 6:27:19 GMT -6
I have nothing left to say, nothing left to offer. No, I'm not depressed.
What's done is done.
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Post by ashima on Aug 21, 2022 17:18:59 GMT -6
When you can still feel people's vibes aren't exactly peaceful. They should get motivated to get help from other resources that can help out the 2 codependent adults who need to learn how to be independent.
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Post by ashima on Nov 2, 2022 12:55:11 GMT -6
Took my grandson and nephew out trick or treating, the kids really had a great time and the weather was beautiful.
Loved my grandson's reactions to the Halloween decor at the houses. He couldn't say trick or treat, but he sure would say "HALLOWEEEEEEN" ☺
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