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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 17:38:54 GMT -6
Yeah, some truth... Truth is, so much needs to change, not only in United States but all over the World...there should be love, prosperity, independence everywhere for everyone...unfortunately that kind of World will most likely never happen... |
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 18:24:08 GMT -6
That's also true
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 18:48:50 GMT -6
We the sheep, invest in a leader to elect and we can easily be led into a wrong direction through words and the group trends
I'm staying out of this election and that is the right choice in my opinion. My 1 vote will not make a difference
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 18:51:47 GMT -6
I'm making the rebel decision
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 19:26:20 GMT -6
I read your comments promoting independence and now, you're promoting rebellion on voting. But to exclude your voice of the vote seems a little bit dependent of the others' choice. How do you explain your choice?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 19:44:22 GMT -6
Since you seem to dislike the welfare use in your country, I was curious to compare with other countries. And I looked for countries having a tag of socialism which is the evil lol . I found a very low rate of welfare or public aid in Denmark or Norway. Maybe lower than in United States, is it possible? It was difficult to find exact information though.
All the notion of dependency seems to be really not clear.
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 19:54:03 GMT -6
I read your comments promoting independence and now, you're promoting rebellion on voting. But to exclude your voice of the vote seems a little bit dependent of the others' choice. How do you explain your choice? My choice is an independent choice Is that a problem? I don't think it is. I still pay my taxes and am a law abiding citizen |
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 19:58:22 GMT -6
Since you seem to dislike the welfare use in your country, I was curious to compare with other countries. And I looked for countries having a tag of socialism which is the evil lol . I found a very low rate of welfare or public aid in Denmark or Norway. Maybe lower than in United States, is it possible? It was difficult to find exact information though. All the notion of dependency seems to be really not clear. It's a dislike for the abusing of the system. Can you also look at race and religious factors of people on welfare? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 20:10:24 GMT -6
So you dislike the systemic unfairness represented by the inequalities in the welfare use. It's really not the same thing. Absolutely not the same thing.
The welfare is supposed to be the effort of the collectivity to counterbalance some real incapacities. Yet when we speak of race or religion, they are not incapacities; we speak of injustice.
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 17, 2016 20:34:43 GMT -6
Believe it or not, they are people who actually make excuses not to work so they can collect assistance, and also those who lie about their income to abuse programs for material gains.
America is materialistic country. Home of ridiculous consumerism and images
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 23:29:38 GMT -6
Don't know if it makes sense for you but what your comment inspire me is that we have to live in concordance with our beliefs. If we don't like something the solution isn't in perpetuating it by our own comportment. We are not the others and we don't have to reflect other's beliefs. The independence must be seen there I would say, before condemning. We have to adopt a family of values where we feel good and right at the just place.
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 18, 2016 7:50:58 GMT -6
Tell that to the people out there living a shady life. For example: to rob people/businesses/banks for a living is a choice. Applying that energy for getting a job and working on the self would be a better decision
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 9:22:52 GMT -6
As a person who is currently getting help from welfare type programs Ive been on the receiving end of the criticism of those on it. Ive also lived among those who receive it as well. I cant speak of what they endure in forms of being ill or disabled, but can speak for myself and say that my condition has made it extremely hard to work and at times, impossible. Ive seen others that appear to be fine yet they are on disability or welfare but then I ask myself "Who am I to judge, I am no doctor". I guess what I am saying is, that we put our faith in the medical professionals who made the decision that this person deserves help and move on, let the politicians and the social workers worry about their eligibility.
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 18, 2016 9:49:47 GMT -6
welfare definition. Government-provided support for those unable to support themselves. In the United States, it is undertaken by various federal, state, and local agencies under the auspices of different programs, the best known of which are Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) and food stamps.
SSDI: We pay disability benefits through two programs: the Social Security disability insurance (SSDI) program and the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program.
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Post by shadowmaker on Mar 18, 2016 9:54:18 GMT -6
I've know people to make up ailments to collect from the government and to have more children to continue collecting. Yes, I'm aware that a problem is within the system itself, but when that's their hustle of life they will indeed find loopholes to keep on that government assistance life. Not all people, but plenty
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