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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 14:46:45 GMT -6
"your freedom and mine cannot be separated"
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 6:57:00 GMT -6
the cold side of the sun... People are smart enough to deserve other thing than bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 7:01:55 GMT -6
If you can’t be a pine on the top of the hill,
Be a scrub in the valley…but be
The best little scrub by the side of the rill;
Be a bush if you can’t be a tree.
If you can’t be a bush, be a bit of the grass,
And some highway happier make;
If you can’t be a muskie, then just be a bass…
But the liveliest bass in the lake!
We can’t all be captains, we’ve got to be crew.
There’s something for all of us here,
There’s big work to do, and there’s lesser to do,
And the task you must do is near.
If you can’t be a highway, then just be a trail,
If you can’t be a sun, be a star;
It isn’t by size that you win or you fail…
Be the best of whatever you are!
Douglas Malloch
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 9:49:49 GMT -6
I experienced it a lot. If it wasn't of that, I could continue to wonder about it.
Everyone is smart enough to hear the truth, even if it is only one person's truth. Beside that, it depends of many things around. Do we feel respect? Do we feel love? Do we trust the other? We may find these in the small gestures, interest and comments every day. Then, when come the time of a difficult comment, it remains difficult, but if we know to be loved, respected and that we trust the person saying it, we are able to cope the comment. And grow. Together.
Yet, I didn't find the way to translate it correctly enough for the virtual world. 
I don't find we are enough smart collectively to believe in libertarianism. There are many steps before to be ready going there. The first one is to be enough positively critic to have, as difficult it may be, our own opinion. Free in our thinking. And it means to be ready to change our ideas anytime if some come with worthy ideas. We're really not there yet. Freedom has nothing to do with doing everything we want. Right now, libertarianism would mean chaos and abuse.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 11:36:40 GMT -6
You hit something because I had to wonder yet again today. An old fear to have a cold heart.
But no, it's not me.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 11:49:34 GMT -6
I only focus on the heart, lifetime. I don't mind if it's bright or dark, connected or disconnected, as long as it is warm and beating for every living thing...<3 For a brilliant mind without a heart is a vision lonely and cold, ready to fall... So God beware our noble ideas! And make us doule-check our hearts! Home is where the heart is free Of any longing A higher home, some may say Whoever they are Those who break the silence as if it was a piece of bread to share... - Love is communication. I reply, so I must be loved <3 Like you said elsewhere, you live your life in your own way. And it's the first freedom we have, we are responsible for our life. And that's right.
But life isn't only with our heart, life needs ourselves completely. We wouldn't achieve anything if we use only our heart. But with our heart, we may achieve it harmoniously.
When we speak with a child or with a colleague and that we want a change, we are responsible doing it, we are responsible from our heart. As a parent, as a colleague, as a friend, I can't agree with you on that. I believe we have to focus on the whole individual. As someone we respect in whole.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 13:13:21 GMT -6
It's crazy, I had forgotten. I used to love only with my heart and it's why I began to write. I knew that I had a problem doing that.
Maybe I became cold in writing to counterbalance?
But, I do know that I'm not cold.
Quite a journey, I would say. 
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 15:44:34 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 7:40:05 GMT -6
I experienced it a lot. If it wasn't of that, I could continue to wonder about it.
Everyone is smart enough to hear the truth, even if it is only one person's truth. Beside that, it depends of many things around. Do we feel respect? Do we feel love? Do we trust the other? We may find these in the small gestures, interest and comments every day. Then, when come the time of a difficult comment, it remains difficult, but if we know to be loved, respected and that we trust the person saying it, we are able to cope the comment. And grow. Together.
Yet, I didn't find the way to translate it correctly enough for the virtual world.
I don't find we are enough smart collectively to believe in libertarianism. There are many steps before to be ready going there. The first one is to be enough positively critic to have, as difficult it may be, our own opinion. Free in our thinking. And it means to be ready to change our ideas anytime if some come with worthy ideas. We're really not there yet. Freedom has nothing to do with doing everything we want. Right now, libertarianism would mean chaos and abuse.
that's why it's so important to use the back door instead of the front door by times... LOL I saw and I know you're right, in a certain way, saying and doing it but... there is something in me rebelling, I don't know exactly why. Maybe, the respect? Probably, it shows my weakness I don't want to be free in our hearts. I don't want to not be special for the people I love and who loves me. I really love the idea of the prince with his rose. I see that I'm possessive in my love. I have to consciously make a mind work to keep it at an acceptable level. Like I say that, it seems more terrible than it is in reality but it's because I had numerous cogitations about that, before my daughter's birth, with boyfriends and even with family's members. I know the freedom of thinking, of being, of decisions is really important and my personal direction is through this yet I find tremendously important a strong link. So, it's always a fine line to follow between both extremes.
I felt so deprived from the inside world; deprived because lonely, except with the Oneness feeling. After all these years, I feel a reconciliation. I believe it's important to "see" the inner world of someone we have in front of us. To see what we are sharing is only the iceberg's tip and the human being is a lot more than that. And when we are able to see the person in that way, we are probably able to have a better relationship with the person, even if it's during few seconds. It's probably something like that you express and not denying the importance of flesh and bones. I don't know. I don't know what you have in mind exactly. All the same, just with my personal view, I don't know. Maybe, it would help if I gave more importance to practical spiritual actions. |
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Post by shadowmaker on May 23, 2016 9:00:39 GMT -6
that's why it's so important to use the back door instead of the front door by times... LOL I saw and I know you're right, in a certain way, saying and doing it but... there is something in me rebelling, I don't know exactly why. Maybe, the respect? Probably, it shows my weakness I don't want to be free in our hearts. I don't want to not be special for the people I love and who loves me. I really love the idea of the prince with his rose. I see that I'm possessive in my love. I have to consciously make a mind work to keep it at an acceptable level. Like I say that, it seems more terrible than it is in reality but it's because I had numerous cogitations about that, before my daughter's birth, with boyfriends and even with family's members. I know the freedom of thinking, of being, of decisions is really important and my personal direction is through this yet I find tremendously important a strong link. So, it's always a fine line to follow between both extremes.
I felt so deprived from the inside world; deprived because lonely, except with the Oneness feeling. After all these years, I feel a reconciliation. I believe it's important to "see" the inner world of someone we have in front of us. To see what we are sharing is only the iceberg's tip and the human being is a lot more than that. And when we are able to see the person in that way, we are probably able to have a better relationship with the person, even if it's during few seconds. It's probably something like that you express and not denying the importance of flesh and bones. I don't know. I don't know what you have in mind exactly. All the same, just with my personal view, I don't know. Maybe, it would help if I gave more importance to practical spiritual actions. Interpersonal relations Because we live in a world where human beings are of flesh and bones. One can type all day and night talking about many things, but you still worked the truly know the person because body language, making eye contact, and facial expressions can't be relayed in real time through words. |
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Post by shadowmaker on May 23, 2016 10:31:37 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 14:51:39 GMT -6
That's sure we learn a lot of a conversation in front of a person by all the body language particularly, but also the tone of the voice, the intonation at this specific place. It's even not questionable.
But to say the same than you earlier, I would say it's not a competition. Both are different and complementary.
The example of the child' suicide, isn't really good in my opinion. Many parents or friends say the same about their loved one choosing suicide and with who they spoke face to face. We are very good to hide our emotions and feelings. Lately, I heard a parent saying that the only person with who his child gave some indication of his intent was an internet relationship. In fact, we hear that often, confidences are made on the net. There is a kind of permissiveness procured by the distance. It may be a lot easier to speak openly than to people in front of those who we know, who love us. We may feel having much more to lose.
For sure, ideally, it would be to feel enough trust and love and openness to speak of everything with those around us, in our life. But the truth is not this one too often.
The article speaks of authenticity; I would say we may find it or not on the net, also in face to face relationships. I believe it's a human quality that we may find in all the actions of a person. Someone who wants hide oneself will find means to do it no matter what the way of communication.
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Post by shadowmaker on May 24, 2016 10:14:08 GMT -6
There are some really screwed up people online and so privacy is important and posting everything too much personal updates and photos can leave one open to problems from the screwy folks.
And there is no need to create 2 accounts on a Facebook imo. That alone is too much crap. And who the hell has that kind of time to keep up with that type of shit?
Anyways, some things are just not any body's business in my life since I have children and need to take precaution as a woman and a mother.
If people want to speak to me online they shouldn't say they aren't on bullshit or play mind games when clearly I can read the bullshit as if they are on some drug to make no coherent sense at some point in the conversation.
When that happens I see that person trying to stir up some shit.
Which, for me backs me away from conversation continuing until the person can actually tell me what the point is to continue. What's the goal/plan to it?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 13:24:47 GMT -6
There are some really screwed up people online and so privacy is important and posting everything too much personal updates and photos can leave one open to problems from the screwy folks. That's sure. We have to not forget, people are the same, on the net and face to face. The difference is we tend to give more of ourselves on the net and it may be unwise in malicious hands Say the girl running a website
I believe we find time for the things that really matter
Since you speak of it, I wonder why did you continue on this website since very few are active? When I came back lately, it was my questioning. Do you use it as a kind of journal? If it was to keep in touch with the few members, you could have decided to make a lot of other things for that. Really more simple, I mean. When we write something everyday or so, it means something. What is it, if you don't mind I ask? |
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Post by shadowmaker on May 24, 2016 21:50:24 GMT -6
There are some really screwed up people online and so privacy is important and posting everything too much personal updates and photos can leave one open to problems from the screwy folks. That's sure. We have to not forget, people are the same, on the net and face to face. The difference is we tend to give more of ourselves on the net and it may be unwise in malicious hands Say the girl running a website
I believe we find time for the things that really matter
Since you speak of it, I wonder why did you continue on this website since very few are active? When I came back lately, it was my questioning. Do you use it as a kind of journal? If it was to keep in touch with the few members, you could have decided to make a lot of other things for that. Really more simple, I mean. When we write something everyday or so, it means something. What is it, if you don't mind I ask? I have kept in touch with 2 people who post on this board since around 2007/2008 but that was on a different time board when the communication began. That board no linger exists. Belte decided to create this place for the few of us that have remained in contact. So here we are. |
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