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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 20:20:00 GMT -6
Using the term transgender has become so cliché...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 20:58:40 GMT -6
Just for visual, and because it is one of my favorite movies...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 21:11:13 GMT -6
 Yes, so cliché
What does it mean in your mind shamse? What I read on the subject is about not feeling having the right body to fit with who they are. It's deeper than role models or clothing I guess.
I never had such feeling yet it's probably easier for a woman to express both feminine and masculine aspects of our self. I mean, less problematic in society.
That being said, we don't speak here of equality between genders socially.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 11:33:56 GMT -6
I thought this issue was worth to become a thread on its own. So let's see what will be discussed in here, if anything will be discussed at all. I consider myself as transgender, because gender, to me, is socially made and thereby a pattern to deconstruct, among many others. I feel as both, male and female at the same time, and I do live it out. Does that cause trouble? Only when people stick to gender cliché role models... which I challenge by cross-dressing, cross-behaving... so, yes and no. I would agree that we all can relate to both male and female aspects...but how can you claim gender is socially made??? Gender is biologically made, I mean after all we are born with either a penis or vagina...I tend to think "stereotyping" female identity/male identity are what is socially made... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:00:23 GMT -6
so where did shamse go???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:07:38 GMT -6
After anaise, shamse? What does it mean? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:17:05 GMT -6
Who knows???
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 15:14:16 GMT -6
Using the term transgender has become so cliché... My dearest shamse (in case you are reading)...I hope you did not misunderstand my sentiment here...my intent was not meant as being unsympathetic...I was just being honest in my observations of how the term has become so overused, that it has in fact become cliche`...so many feel they need to be identified by a label, instead of just being themselves...if one puts themselves in a box with a label is one truly free? Love to you ♥ |
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Post by Dead Gerhl on Jan 15, 2017 8:16:32 GMT -6
The world I live in, it's neither a label nor a cliché, it's a daily struggle, inside and outside... sometimes, you win. sometimes, you lose.
Corgan calls people like me "ugly pigs", while some of you are speaking of a cliché. Both statements take any good feeling of self-worth away from people like me.
Learn from your insensitiveness, please, and try to understand with the heart, not the mind. That would save a lot of tears and lives, everybody. Thanx.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 8:42:29 GMT -6
Sorry if my words hurt you, it was certainly not my intent. We spoke together for a long time now and we have our own sense of humour.
I know transgenders, not intimately, but enough to understand at some point the enormous courageous asked to cope this matter of fact in one's life. It's not something desired or wanted, it's only who one is. Those I know are the ones having succeeded, so to speak, and being exemples for others. I have extreme respect for them. |
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Post by Blixa B. on Jan 16, 2017 6:55:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 11:07:54 GMT -6
To be a man or a woman isn't just to put clothing, it's also to endorse a vision others have on you. That's also history or your absence of. It's statistics demonstrating an unbalance which necessarily brings domination upon other's pattern. It's so culturally integrated that we accept it as normal. It's so culturally integrated that many thinks they are respectful when they're not.
It's totally abnormal than a man showing such disrespect about women (amongst others) was elected in United States. It can be only because of a dysfunctional state of mind integrated in culture.
It's so integrated that just to speak about it, you're labelled or you're seen exaggerating or frustrated.
So many, many women chose to abdicate and to take the slow path of change.
Some put this disrespect like all the others. It's true, one disrespect isn't worst than the other. But we have 100% of the world's population (men/women) affected daily by this, so if we have some change in it probably all the rest of disrespect would see some improvement also.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:14:26 GMT -6
The world I live in, it's neither a label nor a cliché, it's a daily struggle, inside and outside... sometimes, you win. sometimes, you lose. Corgan calls people like me "ugly pigs", while some of you are speaking of a cliché. Both statements take any good feeling of self-worth away from people like me. Learn from your insensitiveness, please, and try to understand with the heart, not the mind. That would save a lot of tears and lives, everybody. Thanx. This is just a bunch of bullshit! I wasnt being incensitive..And I never said being transgender was cliché, I said " using the term has become cliché" there is a difference..we ALL struggle inside and out, I am no different than you...Also I think when Billy used the term "ugly pig" he said it because he was mad..could have been anyone..why are you taking what he said to someone else so personally? I am no different than you, I have feelings...people make fun of me at times..difference is I don't care what others think Of me, I love myself..why do you feel the need "others" need to validate you? Your struggle has to do with yourself, not with others... And I am not going to apologize for leaving those movie clips..its a great movie... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:37:11 GMT -6
"Self-worth" an opinion of ones "own" self...why let someone other than yourself determine your worth?
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Post by Blixa B. on Jan 16, 2017 17:16:29 GMT -6
The world I live in, it's neither a label nor a cliché, it's a daily struggle, inside and outside... sometimes, you win. sometimes, you lose. Corgan calls people like me "ugly pigs", while some of you are speaking of a cliché. Both statements take any good feeling of self-worth away from people like me. Learn from your insensitiveness, please, and try to understand with the heart, not the mind. That would save a lot of tears and lives, everybody. Thanx. I, too, struggle sometimes, Dead Gerhl. We all do. It ain't easy today, neither to fit into patterns nor to subvert them. It's not only gender I'm talking about... Whatever other people may think or say about you... give a shit about 'em and walk on. That's what I've always done. Living my life my way... ;-) <3 |
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Yes, so cliché
